songwriting

Good Medicine: How Trusting the Process Led to the Birth of a Podcast

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Brett Bass is being really patient. “Where do you want to do this?” he asks. “Do you have a press pass and does it let you backstage?”

I do not have a press pass. In fact, I have never interviewed an artist face-to-face before. Calling myself press would be a stretch. 

He suggest the VIP. I don’t have that kind of clout either. They barely let me in the park. The gatekeeper is a woman in her fifties. The lines on her face suggest she knows she is clever.

“He’s a journalist. We are gonna do an interview. Can he come back for a few minutes?” 

“Sure. Who do you work for, Rolling Stone?” she asks flashing her wrinkle-maker. 

The VIP sits stage left. The music is loud but this is a bluegrass festival so we can hear each other with just a little more than normal effort. 

I flub a compliment about his Unknown Hinson shirt. “My girlfriend’s band opened for them.” Them?! Yeah, lady, I’m the next Cameron Crowe.

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I lead with some Man, what are you doin’ here?! questions. “These are such great songs and you are one of the most incredible guitar pickers I have ever seen. Your tunes should be in heavy rotation on every country station. Why do you think they play Florida Georgia Line and that bullshit instead of music like this?”

My phone is recording the conversation. We had agreed on twenty minutes. It’s been seven according to the screen. Despite seven minutes of me fellating the lead singer’s ego, Grandpa’s Cough Medicine is nowhere near the top of the country charts. Time to switch gears.

“When you sit down to write, are the lyrics coming first or do you build on the melody?”

He casts an imposing figure. Brett Bass is probably 6’4” and built like an offensive lineman in retirement. He leans back. Takes a satisfied breath. Almost as if he had been bottling up the urge to tell me how dumb my questions had been to this point. 

I’m not sure what to expect. Am I doing well or is this a disaster? He rewards my moment of self-awareness by going off about inspiration, process, his love of playing guitar, the difficulty of being a bandleader, and more. Twenty minutes is over in a blink.

My blood is pumping with the high you get from falling in love or besting a long-standing challenge. I’m making wrinkles of my own. My father is there to witness the birth of this new chapter. He leaves me alone on the hill overlooking Spirit of the Suwannee’s meadow so I can listen to the recording and start writing. 

What is this piece? Will it be a straight transcript? Maybe part of a larger review of the festival? Listening to my conversation with a stranger whose music I love is disorienting. It sounds much as I remember from ten minutes ago but as an outside observer I notice some things that were not evident during the chat.

As I remembered, Brett is polite and professional. But the Grandpa’s Cough Medicine frontman does not want to talk about why his band is not a household name. While I kind of picked up on that in the moment, it is so clear on tape. My line of questioning is like asking a teacher who has been busting their ass for years why they aren’t making six figures.

His tone shifts at the seven minute mark. Voice almost skips into the conversation about process. He sounds loose, at home. I wish my readers could hear this! How am I gonna explain it in print? Maybe these interviews should be a podcast. How does one make a podcast? Gonna have to do some research but how hard can it be? Thirty minute conversations about the creative process. Short intro. Make up a theme song. 

Now, what are we gonna call it? The...

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The Last Time I Saw John

John Prine played Orlando on December 6, 2019. Kelsey Waldon - John’s label mate, friend, and protege - graciously agreed to record an episode of my podcast before she and her band opened the show. We laughed and got serious and talked about beauty and art. We gushed about John Anderson, Lucinda Williams, and John Prine. The latter came up just as the sound of the man himself began to bleed into the dressing room in which we were recording.

It was my birthday and I couldn’t stop grinning. We opened the door to better hear Prine’s voice, maybe even get a little of it on the recording. Kelsey, who has heard John sing dozens of times, was nearly as excited as me at that moment.

On my way out I walked by the main stage. John was up there getting the lay of the land in a black t-shirt and jeans. I stopped and allowed myself a brief voyeur. It is probably tautological to say John Prine is an otherworldly, generational writer. Yet, he seemed remarkably human on that stage.

Here is a cancer survivor. A Grammy winner. A person who has inspired an uplifted some of the best talents we have in contemporary roots music.

John and I never met but all accounts are he straddled that rare air between being an authentic, down-to-earth guy and one who belongs in the pantheon of American writers. A normal person who was anything but.

Prine later put on one of the best shows I have seen in a really long time. A true master class in performance. I don’t remember which song it was, but at some point I started thinking about my grandmother. Inspiration struck while he was painting a picture of home and the comfort of simple pleasures in the way John Prine was able to do better than just about anyone.

John and my grandmother grew up in a similar time and place. The scene he set sent my hands to scribbling. Somehow it felt like John was giving me a gift, a mystical cowrite of sorts. By the end of his set, I had an all-but-finished song of my own. A poor imitation of John Prine to be sure, but one that means a ton to me.

A magical cowrite with John Prine probably sounds hokey to a lot of readers, but it’s the truth of how I felt then and now. If there is one thing I feel confident saying about John Prine, it’s that he put a premium on telling the truth through art.

Thank you for the years of inspiration, John. I hope your wristwatch is off and you are enjoying that vodka and ginger ale. We miss you like crazy.

Album Review | Rod Picott's Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil

Rod Picott found himself free-soloing up a sheer face. The soles of his shoes slipping 2,000 feet above an abyss, imminent peril the likely result. While confronting impossible odds, Picott kept creating. And, after some semblance of normalcy was restored, he created some more. The result is a stunning work of art called Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil.

Picott has long been one of the great songwriters of his generation. His bonafides are well established, but this record cements him as something different. It is the best of an impressive catalog and there are a few clear reasons for that.

Born on either end of a major health scare, Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil is as raw as a fresh breakup wound, a reflection on the origin story of a man’s life as he stares down death and loneliness and wonders where to go from here. The record is not overly romantic. In fact, in parts it thumbs its nose at the notion of romanticizing life’s brutal bits.

The mood is one of sitting on a precipice looking down between dangling feet, taking in the struggle of of the climb. Celebrating progress while recognizing the mistakes that were and those that could have let to the catastrophic destruction of everything that matters.

The gift of this record is that it is a window into the thoughts and emotions of a great writer. Picott opens the cellar door on his fears, crutches, and desires. He leads us down the rickety steps of his psyche by shining a lantern on each rung. At the end of the journey we reach a room filled with hope. Not a dank, closed basement, but a space walled with doors and mirrors, reflections of ourselves leading to the possibility of self-discovery and improvement.

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil demands heavy lifting from both artist and consumer. The work is rewarding. Rod Picott’s new record Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil comes out on July 19. Stay tuned to marinadepodcast.com for a conversation with the man himself starting July 5th. It’ll pair well with your Fourth of July hangover.